On the permanence of blogs

I think I can now empathize with those who were on Radio, or other early blog engines. I started blogging (upon the Spider King's instruction) back in 2003. Hardly early. My first bloggings were using a custom "system" that I had written -- I would generate the RSS, then FTP that to my server. The blog software (essentially in reverse of many engines) would render that RSS as HTML. Later, I started up on ScottW's fledgling dotnetweblogs.com. I *think* I had a little to do with its later becoming weblogs.asp.net, but that may just be my delusions of grandeur speaking.

Finally, after being forced over to a new URL I didn't really want, I decided it was time to head out on my own again. I grabbed a copy of Telligent's fine Community Server, installed it at a host, and here I am. Sadly, I don't seem to be as here as I hoped. Despite my telling people I moved, people still seem to only read the original. Examples: there are currently 10 subscriptions to my new blog (this one) on Bloglines, while there are 189 to the old one. 189 people, some maybe even complaining about how I haven't posted since March of this year. The depressing event happened last weekend, though. I did a test -- I posted to this blog on Friday at the end of a long day/week. Then, I started to watch as no one read it. Well, hardly any (Hi Brian, Hi Karl, Hi Scott, Hi Mike). Finally, Brian read the post, and announced the same item on his blog. Boom, responses a plenty. I decided to try part 2 of the test this morning - post the same item to both blogs. Currently (about 10 hours after the original post) 573 people have read the post, either via the post itself, or via an aggregator (maybe more, but that's what the feedback page is reporting). Oh, that's via the "old blog". Via the new blog that same set of numbers is 63. Pretty much an order of magnitude lower.

So, what do I do? Move back to the old blog? Ignore it and move on with my life as this is incredibly trivial? Blog about more technical stuff (that I have no time to do as I spend all my workday beating down MSDN bugs on the four sites I get to work on)? Leak internal documents? Go back to playing WoW? Work on the book chapters I have to get done? Make popcorn? Oh, OK, I'll go do that. Later.

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# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by Anonymous at 8/23/2005 5:03 PM Gravatar
I hear you. The reason why I don't blog (and coincidently why I didn't have a place to link to it), is because I don't want to be reminded of how no one would read it :) I just don't have hanselman fame, but I can't admit it to myself.

I like the idea of leaking internal documents. And you know I really like the WoW idea! I kid you not, I'm totally addicted to the tales of our favorite gnome.

I find it a nuissance how weblogs.asp.net is slowly being killed off (more and more people leaving), blogs.msdn.com is full of stuff I don't want to read, and everyone else is spread out. I can certainly see how you'd get way more reads on blogs.msdn.com, and I could see why you'd consider going back.

Karl

# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by Anonymous at 8/23/2005 6:07 PM Gravatar
Perhaps part of the problem is certain sites (http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/) still linking to your old URL :)

Can you set up an automatic redirect at your old site perhaps?

# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by kent at 8/23/2005 6:33 PM Gravatar
Thank you all. I've been thinking of putting a redirect in, but I was hoping to move all my old posts over first. Sadly, I think that won't be happening anytime soon, so I'll probably just put the redirect in and ignore those posts.

# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by kent at 8/23/2005 6:37 PM Gravatar
Oh, almost forgot -- thank you, Jon. Now I can start hunting for links. I thought I had changed them all.

# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by Anonymous at 8/23/2005 7:45 PM Gravatar
I guess there's no chance you could get an HTTP 301 put in place at the old RSS feed to redirect to your new one? That's about the only way you're going to get people to move.

You could take down the old feed altogether, but that's pretty drastic and not likely to get people to show up over here.

# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by Anonymous at 8/23/2005 7:47 PM Gravatar
Simple, add a 301 redirect to old blog. :)

# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by kent at 8/24/2005 2:06 AM Gravatar
As much as I'd love to "Just send a 301", I don't have the ability to send that from blogs.msdn.com. It would be nice if someone (who's currently on the beaches of Aruba, apparently) would add that functionality, though.

I have toyed with the idea of using Javascript on those pages to send people over to the new site, but it doesn't do anything for those who read the RSS.

# Trying Out FeedBurner

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# Giving FeedBurner a Try

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# FeedBurner and Changing a Blog's Feed URL

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# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by Anonymous at 8/23/2005 4:04 PM Gravatar
Hey now I have commented before as well I know you moved and I read your blog as well ;-)

However as of lately you haven't had many what I would say commentable posts. Lots of links that get me going someplace else. Also on a side note busy time for me as well, finally a project I started on on January got aproval to begin coding, 8 months of trying to get the users to make up their mind what they wanted and now I am left with 2 months to build it. Users sheesh 8 months to make up their mind and then now they want it done now. Plus I am the Ineta VS 2005 rep for my area work there plus SQL 2005 to try to master. So no time to comment much.

# re: On the permanence of blogs

left by Anonymous at 8/23/2005 9:20 AM Gravatar
Hey, Kent: I subscribed to the new blog after your part 2 test this morning; before that I had no idea you had moved.

I recommend that you set up a permanent redirect from your old RSS to this one. Details here: http://scottwater.com/blog/archive/2004/04/14/PermanentRedirects.aspx
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