AlexBarn has left the building

When I first saw that Alex was moving his blog off of blogs.msdn.com, I was thinking of posting my own rationalle, but decided against it as I was sour on blogging. Then Brian mentioned that he had similar reasons as Alex, so I decided I had to comment.

I first started blogging on my "old company site". It was a home-grown solution. Pretty cheesy, what Eric Sink calls a "MeWare" solution. I stopped that after a stinging side comment from Scott Swigart ("Writing a blog solution is the .NET equivalent of 'Hello World'", or something like that) and moved on to DotNetWeblogs. I loved that little community Scott started, and despite the usual content fire storms, many others did as well. As all of you no doubt know, DotNetWeblogs became weblogs.asp.net (and I vainly think I had some small part to play in that), which begat blogs.msdn.com. I left blogs.msdn.com in what was described as a 'hissy fit' as that was a URL change I hated and did not want. I had wanted to stay on weblogs, but due to a policy change that didn't affect everyone (but that I couldn't get reversed for me), I was stuck. Therefore, I left, coming here.

Our "community" has grown at least five and a half big community blogging sites that I know of: Weblogs, MSDN (and Technet) blogs, GeeksWithBlogs, DotNetJunkies and CodeBetter. Each is essentially the same, and each has -- or will -- go through the same pains as any other semi-cohesive group. Flame wars and battles over, "Is this appropriate" are inevitable in any human discourse, especially asynchronous ones like blogs. As I monitor the main feeds of most of the above, I see all sorts of posts that led Alex and Brian to feel they needed to self-censure themselves and leave. I also see what may be hugely interesting posts, but in languages I can't read. Neither the off-topic posts, nor the non-English posts bug me 1% as much as the waves of, "Oh, look at the latest 'viral' site that Microsoft has created" or "Hey, look at this new software that has come out." posts. Some are still interesting. For example, I would never begrudge Phil's soccer posts -- they just show he's a person with more than one interest, and that makes him more human/interesting.

I guess where I wanted to head with this post is, "A blogging community should be just that -- a community. While no one should go overboard and post endlessly about alternate topics, they should be able to post on things that interest them without the community coming down on them." That's what categories are for -- to limit your 'noise'. Also, give people some slack. They found it interesting, so perhaps someone else might find the same point interesting, even if it's not about "Creating an obfuscated ASP.NET "Atlas" component for recompiling IL into WPF applications."

On the LazyWeb front -- that's a feature I'd love to see in a blogging engine -- "Show me all the posts, except ones in this category."

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# re: AlexBarn has left the building

left by Anonymous at 9/10/2006 7:37 PM Gravatar
@Mike: I'd like to point out that the same could be said for open source blogging engines.

Subtext would welcome an "Everything but X feed" subscription option. In fact, I'd love to take it one step further and give the Chinese menu option. You could create a customized feed selecting the categories you're interested in.

The added benefit is that you don't have to implement EVERYTHING yourself. ;)

@Kent: My soccer posts are ABSOLUTELY technical. ;) They are a reminder for us to get out of the house once in a while. Exercise fuels the brain for deep thought and insightful breakthroughs.

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My New Personal Blog

# My New Personal Blog

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My New Personal Blog

# re: AlexBarn has left the building

left by Anonymous at 9/5/2006 7:45 PM Gravatar
>"MeWare" solution. I stopped that after a stinging side comment from Scott Swigart ("Writing a blog solution is the .NET equivalent of 'Hello World'"

Ha. One of the great benefits of using MeWare for blogging is that you can implement the features you want, when you want them, in any way you want to. If I wanted to implement an all-except category feed, I could do that tonight. :-) On top of all that, of course, hosting your own blog means there's no one else in your community to tell you what you may and may not post.

And, of course, you learn a lot. I have yet to meet a blogspot user who understands trackback.

# re: AlexBarn has left the building

left by Anonymous at 9/6/2006 12:20 AM Gravatar
While I agree and disagree, with this post. If you had not started on the msdn blogs or asp.net blogs and been in the main feed, I probably would not have picked you up in my feeds. I have enjoyed your blogging throughout the years. You do not blog as much as you used to since you moved out to here. I also like Alex's blog and when he posted he was moving, I just updated my feed. If he hadn't blogged in the main feed I probably would never have picked up on him either. So going down the pipe in the main microsoft feed is not such a bad thing.

However, I can understand the freedom you would get by doing your own thing on your own site. Maybe it is a sign of the times that turn like always. Much like the web of old, and old personal pages. Originally it was the geeks that ruled the internet. Then Marketing took that all over. Then Geeks created chat and IRC. AOL ruined that by flooding the internet will masses of inexperienced users and again became a marketing thing. Geeks then created and maintained their own domains, personal home pages etc with handy email addresses so if you wanted to talk to them you could always email them, the web was still geek friendly as long as you avoided AOL. Then along came marketing and geocities and every AOL user could create a webpage easily. Then along came more marketing spammers and email address harvesters, destroying most use for email someone sending you an estranged email Geeks grew apart. Occasionally communing on forums, only to have forums get forums spam and again become comercialized and ruined by someone in marketing that thought they could make money out of geeks helping each other out hence came the pay forums and the one that can only be read if you give up your email address so they can spam you.

Trying to do what they loved to do just be geeks, they created the blog, with RSS feeds. In reality it was the greatest thing since sliced bread for a geek. However, like all things before it, things like MySpace, Xenga, blogger and so on and well every Tom, Dick and Harry created a blog and a blogging community and man are they trying to market that like crazy, not to mention the spammers. I guess the geeks are just returning to what works for now, a personal web site, where geeks can be geeks, but the personal website have changed some, now they have rss feeds and in a blog sort of format.

Eh, but what you gonna do. When a curious geeks wants to know about the greatest invention since sliced bread, they have only to look it up anymore http://ask.yahoo.com/20060905.html

# re: AlexBarn has left the building

left by kent at 9/6/2006 1:55 AM Gravatar
Jeff --

I think we're in agreement. I know I'd rather still be on weblogs.asp.net (if the "transfer" had not happened), and I think Alex and Brian shouldn't have had to migrate off. Personally, I find the main feeds handy -- I quite often discover someone new and interesting on them.

The thoughts on "the democratization of technology" (to use a horrid expression) are interesting. I never really thought of them in terms of personal home pages etc. Now I have to sit here trying to think of "what's next to make the leap"...
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